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Poster: Capt. Cook Date: Mar 16, 2010 3:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Why Does Every Year Sound Different?

I don't know about you, but I suspect you're the same in that you can tell instantly what year a show is from just by the sound of the band. For instance, I can easilly tell a 1972 show from a 1973 show, or even a 1971 show, and 1974 has a very different sound than 1973. 1980 sounds different than 1979. And 1985 sounds very different than 1984.

Of course, you can place a show by its musicians at the time, but beyond that each year with Brent sounds different and I was just wondering why is that? Did they change equipment, ie drums and keyboards and such each year? Was it the recording techniques and equipment that improve and also give each year a certain sound?

Or have I just listened to so many shows that I pretty much have the whole thing memorized by now???

Can you tell what year a show is from just by listening? I bet you can too...

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Poster: cosmic charlie dupree Date: Mar 16, 2010 5:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why Does Every Year Sound Different?

Great question. I think it's a combination of instruments changing (principally Jerry's guitar), interpretations of songs, and DEFINITELY the recording. Generally speaking, I picture '72 boards and '76/77 boards as slightly cloudy or muffled, 1971 as generally crisp/trebley (yes I'm creating new words), and 1970 as extremely full sounding - thanks to Bear, I assume. There are plenty of exceptions - 9/28/72 Stanley Theater is as crystal clear a board as I have heard - but the general trends are there.

This post was modified by cosmic charlie dupree on 2010-03-17 00:16:15

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Poster: user unknown Date: Mar 16, 2010 4:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why Does Every Year Sound Different?

not so much years as eras

Pig
TC
Keith
Brent
Vince
and then you had Jerry "experimenting" with different guitars and effects

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Poster: Finster Baby Date: Mar 17, 2010 5:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why Does Every Year Sound Different?

Just a natural progression of things.
It's the same reason you (or me, or anyone)looks different from one year to the next. Everything evolves. The players evolve as well as any outside influences also evolve.

It's this ever changing world in which we live.

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Poster: John Locke Date: Mar 16, 2010 4:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why Does Every Year Sound Different?

For the most part, yes. But some 1974 sounds like 73 and some 76 sounds like 77 and some 78 sounds like 77 and some 79 sounds like 78.

80-83 all sound similar and I bet some 94 sounds like 93 or 95.

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Mar 16, 2010 4:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why Does Every Year Sound Different?

i lot has changed in the past 6 months,John, now hasn't it??

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Mar 17, 2010 8:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why Does Every Year Sound Different?

Sometimes the band sounds different from tour to tour , in the same year . Dave Lemieux mentions , for instance, the change from the Jan-Feb 78 shows, to the April 78 shows . Sometimes there was less change ( say, 93 - 95 ), but most of the time I think a seasoned listener could guess within a year or 2 , with a pretty good percentage .
This happened to me yesterday ! I quickly put on a disc from my stack , without seeing the date . Can hear Bruce...Vince, sound energetic , I would guess early in their run,..."Valley Road" ... Ok .. Late 90 . It was 12/13/90 .
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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Mar 16, 2010 4:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why Does Every Year Sound Different?

all of the above!

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Poster: Solo Head Date: Mar 16, 2010 6:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why Does Every Year Sound Different?

'cause they weren't a band like the Rollings Stones or the Who. The only way to tell the difference of years of those bands was by song selection in support of their latest album. Aside from later year personnel changes (Moon), for example,the "sound" of those bands was templated.

The GD were a band that were easily bored when they pigeon holed themselves to a particular sound and took proactive steps (Keith) not to fall into that hole.

I would say that Jerry and Phil were most responsible for the freshness ("bobby's a pimp...he never coulda outfoughta Santino").